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BT Consumer fibre services without the need for landline phone

The moans about paying line rental by those who don't use their landline have been a constant for some years and BT now appears to have launched FTTP options without a landline phone. Alas there are no big savings, in fact with BT the costs appear to be the same or slightly more as the with phone packages.

The no landline phone means no dial tone, either over the old bit of copper coming into your home or a digital voice service via the BT Smart Hub. This means for emergency calls you are reliant on your mobile phone and services such as alarms that use a landline will cease working - though some alarm firms may have IP only or mobile options that you can switch to.

The pricing is actually slightly more expensive than the current affiliate deals that exist where for the next few days Fibre 1 is £26.99/m plus £100 reward and Fibre 2 is £29.99/m plus £120 reward (offers run out on evening of 12th November). ?The broadband only pricing is £27.99/m and £31.99/m which is the regular new customer pricing.

While the headline is all about FTTP without a landline phone for those only able to get VDSL2/FTTC the link we have supplied does offer you the without a phone option. Obviously you will still get the broadband over the old bit of copper from the street cabinet to your home, but there will be no support for incoming or outgoing phone calls i.e. delivered using a SoGEA connection.


@thinkbroadband BT do love their copper lines.

  • @neitherspanish
  • comment via twitter
  • 11 days ago

^^^ A copper based voice service is very valuable for those living in rural areas with no mobile signal indoors and no fibre. Not everyone lives in the big city ya know.

  • baby_frogmella
  • 11 days ago

My BP FTTP service is enabled with FVA which means that I have a phone connection through the ONTE. I am not sure that the BP systems fully support this because whenever they email me with new offers I can never access them through MyBT but it works just fine.

  • brightd
  • 11 days ago

So what is the point if there are no savings?

@@neitherspanish :), if BT loved their coper lines that much then maybe it would be a good idea to maintain them.

  • zyborg47
  • 11 days ago

Just checked and the prices (FTTC) are identical for me with or without phone. Incidentally, there is a prominent "Want broadband without the home phone?" link on the prices page; this isn't something obscure you have to hunt around for.

I can't say I'm surprised. Even back in ADSL days, people would moan about having to pay for line rental when they don't use the phone, failing to realise that most of the overheads for broadband only are the same. The cost of providing the voice service itself is marginal.

  • jrawle
  • 10 days ago

Its just them upselling as always, nice to have the option though.

Virgin do something similar, its more expensive without a phone line.

  • doowles
  • 10 days ago

If they ‘love them’ so much why would they have asked Ofcom to be allowed to discontinue PSTN and been allowed to do so from 2025 ??

  • Zarjaz
  • 5 days ago

Yeas, and Virgin Media have a very hard to lose reputation for screwing their customers by increasing their bill cost far too much & far too frequently, but they do provide a genuinely fast & reliable service, and are willing to negotiate when presented with reasoned arguments by an obstreperous customer.

  • steveputman
  • 4 days ago

Must have missed something. If you are not using copper for a landline phone service why pay landline rent? I am on Virgin Media fibre but I also have the old landline. I used it for backup broadband until I realised for the very few occasions I might need it I could use my mobile. So I cut the service but it still sits there and I pay no rent.

For phone I use Sipgate Voip PAYG, which is very cheap and efficient. Since we use it sparingly, mostly for incoming calls, I pay no more than £5-6 a month. When I think I used to fork out £40-50 a month to BT that's a big saving.

  • Reged
  • 4 days ago

Mobile phone networks can be knocked out & the mains electricity supply can go down rendering a DECT home phone network unusable. I have always maintained one old hardwired wall phone that has no outside power source other than the bell line direct from the exchange.The exchanges have power supplies independant from the mains supply such that so long as the exchange is still standing,I should be able to get through on an old phone that has press buttons that emit Strowger dialling pulses.

  • gendy943
  • 4 days ago

BT would love to keep charging for the voice services, but the copper phones lines go into some fairly old and difficult to support equipment in the exchange.

BT have had several tries at moving PSTN old style telephony onto IP equipment over the years, but we have got to where the underlying pervasive plumbing is going to be IP based broadband, and telephony is just another application.

And yes - that means there isnt the option any more to have a phone which works without local electric power at the consumer end......

  • stephenhope
  • 4 days ago

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